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Cesar Ramirez - Valeo 2

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Nombre(s):	Cesar
Apellido:	Ramirez
Compañia:	Valeo 2
	Direccion:Av. Las Torres - Telefono:6294800 \|52\|-2
Departamento:	Calidad
Posicion:	Ingeniero de calidad
Telefono:	656 6 29 48 76
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Email:	cesar.ramirez@valeo.com
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Comentario:	<br>From: Cesar RAMIREZ [mailto:cesar.ramirez@valeo.com] <br>Sent: Lunes, 02 de Agosto de 2010 11:41 a.m.<br>To: imelda.cota@existest.com<br>Cc: arturo.martinez@existest.com<br>Subject: Fwd: C1 incident intermittent motor<br><br>Anexo instruccion de trabajo de meger requerido.<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com><br>Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM<br>Subject: Fwd: C1 incident intermittent motor<br>To: Cesar RAMIREZ <cesar.ramirez@valeo.com><br>Cc: Markus GLASER <markus.glaser@valeo.com>, Thomas KRAUSE <thomas.krause@valeo.com><br><br><br>Cesar,<br><br>please find attached to this message the instructions for the containment actions on DB motors.<br><br>The process flow should be as follow:<br>a) ensure that the module is NOT in parking position<br>> you will find attached a working flow, discribes how to bring the motor out of parking position<br>see file "How to bring the motor out of parking position or to the parking position" beginning on page 6.<br><br>b) test the motor on the high voltage test<br>> test criteria and process flow are dicribed in file "Work Instruction for 1000V test on Motors"<br><br>c) bring the module to the delivering position (the same as parking position for 405.191 / 405.192 / 405.192)<br>> you will find attached a working flow, discribes how to bring the motor out of parking position<br>see file "How to bring the motor out of parking position or to the parking position" beginning on page 6.<br><br>Remarks: <br>> please be informed that you can only test the reference 405.190 on the motor level.<br>> all other references are need to be containted on the module level.<br><br>Please give me a short feedback, if we should send you our external parking device, which you can see in the working instruction.<br><br>Kind regards<br>Viktor Schmoldt<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Cesar RAMIREZ <cesar.ramirez@valeo.com><br>Date: 2010/7/30<br>Subject: Re: C1 incident intermittent motor<br>To: Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com><br>Cc: Markus GLASER <markus.glaser@valeo.com>, Thomas KRAUSE <thomas.krause@valeo.com><br><br><br>Bietingheim team, <br>We have Ready 2 resistance tester to start the sorting, We will wait for your Work instruction to start here at Juarez.<br><br><br>Regards<br>On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com> wrote:<br>Cesar,<br><br>Thomas is just prepairing the work instruction for containment, including the pictures, etc.<br><br>Please try to organise the resistance tester. We are going to modify the external parking device here in BIE in order to send it to Juarez.<br><br>Attached to this mail, you will find the information about the marking of certified parts, coming out of containment in BIE and at supplier.<br><br>Kind regards<br>Viktor Schmoldt<br><br><br>2010/7/29 Cesar RAMIREZ <cesar.ramirez@valeo.com><br><br>Viktor, please to confirm if we can star to sort of this way proposed by Bietigheim, an please send a picture of how is going to be identified the motors certified.<br><br><br>Regards<br>On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com> wrote:<br>Richard,<br>Luis,<br><br>attached the last update for the parking issue:<br><br>a) detailed problem description<br>GOOD PART: no connection between the pin 31 (ground) and 31b (parking signal) -> resistance on both pins is higher than 4000 MOhm<br>BAD PART: intermittent connection between pin 31 (ground) and 31b (parking signal) -> resistance on both pins is about 800 MOhm<br>-> body controller received a parking signal although the contact springs are not on parking segment and the motor is not in parking position.<br><br>b) containment action in BIE, since 29/07/2010<br>> measure the resistance between pin 31 and 31b<br>> test condition: 1000 V / 0,1 A<br>> test criteria and limits: all parts with resistance less then 4000 MOhm will be selected as bad<br>> first certified shipment to VWS Juarez on Monday, coming week / shipment nb and date will be send<br>> containment criteria and sorting procedure are 100 % capable and applicable for this failure mode.<br><br>c) containment action in Juarez - first step<br>> functional test and parking test on motor level<br><br>d) containment action in Juarez - second step / to be implemented after review with BIE<br>> resistance test between pin31 and pin 31b<br>> test criteria are the same as in containment in BIE<br>> containment is to be done on module for reference 405.191 / 405.192 / 405.193 due to the fact, that the pakring position / mounting position are not the same<br>> containment is to be done on motor or module for reference 405.190<br>> work instruction to be created by BIE / external parking device to be provided by BIE<br>> test equipment to be managed by Juarez (insulation resistance tester for example FLUKE 1520 MegOhmMeter)<br>(http://us.fluke.com/fluke/USEN/Fluke-1520.htm?PID=56009)<br><br>e) containment action in supplier plant / General Cab:<br>> resistance test between pin31 and pin 31b<br>> test criteria are the same as in containment in BIE<br><br>e) risk of field returns<br>> low risk of field returns - all defective parts will be detected by customer EOLT<br>> vehicle body controller is suppervising the parking signal with low voltage (aapr. 3V) and is better suited to detect this failure mode as the EOLT in BIE and Juarez (using 13,5 V for suppervising the parking signal)<br><br>We´ve just discussed with supplier. We can not exclude selective references out of containment, as it looks before.<br>So please keep up the sorting on all references.<br><br>Next steps<br>define work instruction for VWS Juarez --> Bietigheim --> 30.07.2010<br>modify and provide external parking device to VWS Juarez --> Bietigheim --> 30.07.2010<br><br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br>Viktor Schmoldt<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Richard MULLEN <richard.mullen@valeo.com><br>Date: 2010/7/29<br>Subject: Re: C1 incident intermittent motor<br>To: Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com><br>Cc: Luis DUARTE <luis.duarte@valeo.com>, Cesar RAMIREZ <cesar.ramirez@valeo.com>, Markus GLASER <markus.glaser@valeo.com>, Thomas KRAUSE <thomas.krause@valeo.com>, Humberto SALAS <humberto.salas@valeo.com>, Hugues DE PERETTI <hugues.de-peretti@valeo.com><br><br>Hello Viktor: <br><br>Can you explain why you think additional functional testing at Bietigheim & Juarez is assured to detect this defect? It is my view there is high risk suspect parts are already in the field. The data already shows that checks performed by the cover supplier, a function test at Bietigheim and a function test at Juarez failed to detect this condition. We also cannot assume the customer's test will detect this condition 100% of the time. <br><br>The cover assembly has been identified as the source for the malfunction. Please provide more detail how you were able to determine the issue tracked with the cover and the difference between good & bad parts.<br><br>Regards<br>Rick Mullen<br>Group Resident Engineer-MBUSI<br>585-305-2019<br><br>On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com> wrote:<br>Luis,<br><br>of course, sorting action on assy covers, which we want to start this week here in BIE is more precise and therefor more capable, due to the fact that we are measuring the containment item.<br><br>But please keep up the sorting actions. We are sure, that the test is able to detect a defective part.<br><br>For today, we are not able to evaluate the risk. I propose to await the results of containment actions here in BIE and to make a risk calculation.<br><br>For my point of view we should not organise a stock replacement at customer plant, If we are not able to speack with confirmed data.<br><br>The last point: yes, this is a supplier issue for BIE ( C1 for General Cab / Italy)<br><br>Kind regards<br>Viktor Schmoldt<br><br><br>2010/7/27 Luis DUARTE <luis.duarte@valeo.com><br>Victor, <br><br>Thanks for the feedback and your fast analysis, now the question is, if with the test we are doing right now are we 100% able to detect this type of intermittance in the assy cover ? and what is the risk window, shoule we expect more returns from Mercedes, should we bring motors back ? <br>Is it a Biet supplier concern ?<br><br>Regards<br>LD<br><br>On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Viktor SCHMOLDT <viktor.schmoldt@valeo.com> wrote:<br>Cesar,<br><br>we will update the SRM with QR in time. We´ve analysed both last parts and confirm a defect (intermittent) on the assy cover.<br><br>I will send an update today.<br><br>So, back to your questions:<br>> based on the results of today´s investigations: Yes, please start with contianment on 405.191 / 405.193 too.<br>> I absolutely can´t believe that the low and high speed are inverted, please check your connectors, because the pins are mirror imaged between LHD and RHD<br><br>Kind regards<br>Viktor Schmoldt<br>2010/7/27 Cesar RAMIREZ <cesar.ramirez@valeo.com><br><br>Hi Viktor yesterday we opened the C1 incident for the intermittent motors from the <br>Mercedes claims, please do not miss the QR into the SRM system.<br>Yesterday we started the certification of the motors checking the functionality of the motor testing all; velocity low, high an park position, to have all the material certificate, We check:<br>405.190 = 320 motors , 0 rejected for intermittent, 20 motors rejected for Inverted (looks as if low were high and high were low velocity).<br>405.192= 259 motors 0, rejected<br><br>My question is , we need to sort the motors 405.191, 405.193? can this failure happened in this motors too?<br><br>Thanks for your support<br> <br>Cesar Ramirez<br>Quality<br>phone 52 656 6 29 48 76<br>Valeo Wiper Systems<br>Cd. Juarez Chih. Mexico. <br><br>This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s).<br>The information contained therein may be confidential or privileged,<br>and its disclosure or reproduction is strictly prohibited.<br>If you are not the intended recipient, please return it immediately to its sender <br>at the above address and destroy it. <br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Cesar Ramirez<br>Quality<br>phone 52 656 6 29 48 76<br>Valeo Wiper Systems<br>Cd. Juarez Chih. Mexico.<br>This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s).<br>The information contained therein may be confidential or privileged,<br>and its disclosure or reproduction is strictly prohibited.<br>If you are not the intended recipient, please return it immediately to its sender <br>at the above address and destroy it. <br><br><br>This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s).<br>The information contained therein may be confidential or privileged,<br>and its disclosure or reproduction is strictly prohibited.<br>If you are not the intended recipient, please return it immediately to its sender <br>at the above address and destroy it. <br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Cesar Ramirez<br>Quality<br>phone 52 656 6 29 48 76<br>Valeo Wiper Systems<br>Cd. Juarez Chih. Mexico.<br><br>